[bonarpak]

This was obviously the main topic of discussion.
Main points were.
1, We need to know who is available to play before the match.
Either post before saturday or ring me up on the friday night.
Anyone who turns up 'unanounced' may be dissapointed.
2, From the available players - the strongest 11 will start.
3, Jimmy will pick the side using Dave as help.
4, If the game is very close we may not make any substitutions.
5, If the game is 'one sided' where possible everyone who wants to will get some part of the game.
6, When travelling away if we use the mini bus then all players should travel in the mini bus.
This helps team spirit and helps team selection.
7, Consideration for a 2nd team should be given.
I reckon over 25 players have been used since we started last season and that as news of our success travels (Chris's publicity) then more will want to be involved.
Also we want all players to take part so it makes sense to start a 2nd team but only if we have the numbers.
Comments please.
John.

[meatypete1]

2 teams is a good idea to a certain point. The problem is the same as sunday morning teams, if they dont play regular they will go somewhere where they will.

2 is a good idea, I think a vote would be a good idea.

[Chip]

Think the two teams is a good idea....if you can get enough regular players. if not, as Pete says, you run the risk of losing people's interest if they can only play infrequently

Can't see you getting too much enthusiasm for away matches if you state that there may not be substitutions if the match is very close. I'd say most people who turn up, turn up to play, after all, they aren't getting paid for it. How many would go to Oxford next week at 6:30am, if they thought the game might be close and they might not be in the first 11,12 or 13?

Also, I thought the idea behind the fans team, and most fans teams was this was to give an opportunity to play football to those who wouldn't otherwise get to play football. All ages, all abilities and both sexes.

I appreciate I haven't reallly been around long enough to really earn an opinion, but it does seem that you are moving away from the starting principles of the fans team. Under these new suggestions, the people you will probably lose will be those without whom there never would have been a team...those that first turned up against Kiddy, or made the trips to Hull and Oxford when the team first started.

In terms of funding, i think you'll have more success implementing a signing on fee rather than FB membership. However, there again, signing on might depend on whether people are likely to get a game

[Salt and Shaker]

I just rejoined FB aswell

[madmark]

I think it is only fair that if you comfirm that you are playing you should get at least 45mins!

[Salt and Shaker]

yep and you are paying atleast £12:50 for away games alone ( i no 10pound is for transport)

[madmark]

Yeah! It is cheapier than driving down or going on the train!

[Salt and Shaker]

seen as i dont have a car and hate trains i wouldn't no lol

[ChrisMurray]

Well the way it is seen by a few of us is that if we are going to enter the league then we will not be propping up the table sow e will play to win every game and if that means that people dont get on or get on for two minutes then thats fine by me cos aslong as we win its fine.

I dont want to be looking at the table and seeing for example

P W L D F A PTS
Bury 20 0 15 5 50 120 5

I dont wanna see that so lets just play to win. As soon as I cross that white line I play to win.

[paul of cemy end]

One thing that is very annoying is travelling at 4 o clock in the morning to play at Yeovil and paying substantial amounts of money (40quid roughly) only for the next home game to play the same as someone who didnt bother with Yeovil and who has no intention in contributing to the team other than to play the odd home game. I think we need to where possible play as strong a team as possible but we have to let everyone get a decent game. One way is the second team idea and another idea is to play teams like we did against my 5 a side where the result is irrelevant.

[ShakerStu]

In reply to Johns points in order.

1) I agree, everyone should annouce that they are playing and ring up. (I obviously didnt make it clear enough that I was going Shrewsbury).
2) Kind of agree that the strongest 11 will start, though this tactic didnt work in either of the Kidderminster or the Shrewsbury games.
3) Fair enough.
4) Completely unfair to say that people may go all the way to far places not to get a game. In my opinion every player has the right to 45mins minimum.
Its a cycle John, dont play > dont improve > dont get selected > dont play.
6) I'm not a big fan of going on the minibus and I prefer to drive. But if needs be Ill go in the minibus.
7) Maybe a 2nd team is possible, though it'll be nowhere near as good as the first team so no-one will break into it.

[meatypete1]

One thing I do disagree with is the people dont travel to the likes of Yeovil so shouldnt play regular.

I know it is annoying when this happens, and Ill be honest Ill probably be one of them. I just cant afford long away trips simple as that. Im trying to buy a house, run 2 cars and have a few commitments. Its unfair to call someone for not going to all games with the amount it costs. I will go to as many I can afford you cant say fairer than that.

[bonarpak]

I think it should be pointed out that all the points of the meeting were discussed and I have put them down so that people who didn't attend can view and discuss.
Things that have annoyed me in the past is that I have laid out money for the mini bus and have been let down by people saying that they would go then changing their mind, also the point of these matches is obviously to win but also to meet other fans teams we have a good thing going with Bury FC who put on sandwiches and allocate a room for us so we can entertain the away team and supporters.
Each match I beg people to go to the club, each home match this season probably less than half the players have actually bothered to go back to the club.
I have basically started this thing, I have run teams for years (too many)
I am aware of what it means to turn out and play little or no part in the game.
The points listed are not really my points but are the points raised at the meeting by those people who bothered to turn up.
I do not want to upset any player or potential player, we are still learning and we will make mistakes but if we have more people involved and we are all constructive then we will go from strength to strength however if we 'fall out' we might as well pack up now and do other things with our saturday mornings.
John.

[Salt and Shaker]

as John said there is no point in falling out

Just a thought

those that tuen up but dont feature in the 11 a-side game could play a 5-aside game agaisnt the other teams subs

please comment

[paul of cemy end]

Pete not having a jibe at you. Youve played an away game at Shrewsbury. A lot of home games we get are because we play away so think it is fairer for those to play more at home if they go to away games.

[ShakerStu]

but then you've got the question of loyalty over talent.

for example, it was openly admitted to me that Neil started at Shrewsbury because he had been to more games than me. I was fine with this. But Bez (not having a dig just making a point) who has played less than me, started.

also the point of playing the best team from the start has so far not worked, coming off at HT 1-1 against Kiddie and 0-0 against Shrewsbury therefore leaving the 'lesser' player to try and scrape something.

surely playing a mix of 'better' with 'lesser' is the way forward.

[meatypete1]

Pete not having a jibe at you. Youve played an away game at Shrewsbury. A lot of home games we get are because we play away so think it is fairer for those to play more at home if they go to away games.

Dont worry mate I didnt take anything personnel, I just know that I will be one that it applies to. I know for a fact that In wont be able to afford some games.

[madmark]

Just a thought

those that tuen up but dont feature in the 11 a-side game could play a 5-aside game agaisnt the other teams subs

please comment

I think it is a good idea to play a 5 a-side game against their subs while you are not playing as it warms you up and prepares you for thr game but everyone turns up to play in a 11 a-side game!