[hokiedokie]

Coz i definitely do

[Ol dirty glove]

YES - If some profit goes to the club!

Up The Shakers

[plastic_manc]

They should sell Forever Bury beer in the ground.


:beer2:

[METROMAN]

i,ve already got a thirst on thinking about it . whos round is it

mines a pint. :beer: :beer: :beer2: :beer2:

[craig]

The argument was always that beer being sold in the ground equates to increased policing costs, therefore it was unprofitable.

It will be interesting to see if that opinion is echoed or ignored under the new regime.

Personally, I'd love beer to be sold on site...I always shout louder when I've had a couple. And I agree, it should be FB beer.

[Keithh]

Are FB not running a bar for most home games this season?
Gandalf?

[doooog]

:beer2:

Beer gets my vote.


:beer:

[Heysidays]

It gets my vote toooooooo

[buryboy]

I suppose it will make the games seem better if you have 5 or 6 pints but I personally dont think its a good idea,we have enough foul mouthed morons without beer fueling their vocabulary.

[Anonymous]

Ja takk :D

[reef]

Me too, and it'd be about time too.

[DJAsh]

BEER BEER BEER BEER

[Joy Hart]

I will stand over with my whip to make sure it's no more than one pint per person.

[oxford shaker]

Joy, you have just confirmed all my dreams about you and your whip

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[blackpudding]

on a serious note, i'd prefer it if people were issued with vouchers so they could only have a certain number of pints - 3, maybe 4? - that should be enough for a 90 minute game plus 30/60 mins or so before.

but if we do sell drink in the grounds i believe the stewards would have to be much more serious about keeping people who are drunk out, otherwise we would have people coming in pissed and then having 4 pints.

don't take me wrong, i drink way too much anyway but excess drink & football are not good bedfellows.

[Anonymous]

Watching bury, you have to be drunk :roll: ...BURRPH! :oops: Skål..! :P

[corky]

a sensible way of selling alcohol at the ground is to only open two hours before the game ( who gets to gigg before five to three anyway?). then shut until ten minutes before half time then shut it again when the second half starts until full time where it should open again for a hour so people can have a pint discuss the match and allow the traffic to die down.

beer is sold in many grounds around the country and if bury make money off it i am all for it and it would bring us into the twentieth century as for the possibility of increased violence our abuse in the ground is there any facts that this happens at any other clubs around the country.

BEER. BEER, WE WANT MORE BEER.
ALL THE LADS ARE CHEERING GET THE F*****G BEER IN

[steve_pilko]

The argument that we shouldn't sell beer in the ground 'cos it will cause more drunkenness is ridiculous. Without beer inside the ground anyone who wants to get drunk can go to any local pub or the social club before the game. So why shouldn't the club profit? Was there any trouble caused by the beer festival? NO !!!

If introducing beer will bring in significant revenue it should be sorted ASAP.

[Maria]

I DO NOT WANT ALCOHOL SOLD IN THE GROUND AT ALL.
There are already enough IDIOTS without encouraging more - that is my sentiment anyway.
Wait until I get behind me shield before you start shouting and throwing things at me.
OK Now.

[steve_pilko]

I thought the days when the majority had to suffer because of the idiocy of the minority were long gone. A lot of fans would like to be able to turn up to the ground early, meet up with friends and have a sociable drink. Why should this not be allowed.

Anyway, like I said before if some fans want to get drunk they will whether it is in or out of the ground. Surely its better to have them where they can be stewarded than charging out of the pub at 2-55 and running drunk through the streets around Gigg.

[blackpudding]

corky,

were you at rochdale last year? did you see the 50-100 racist/fascist scum? 90% at least of whom were pissed out of their heads? that's why we shouldn't allow too much alcohol into games.

steve_pilko,

you're missing the fact that we can, and i hope do, turn people away from the ground who are pissed. it's the rules (and i think the law?) that people who are drunk do not get into football grounds. so if they want to get pissed outside of gigg and then turn up pissed, we should refuse entry.

don't get me wrong, i love a drink before a game. i rarely do because of the timescale and i tend to have a drink after instead but i'm not an anti-drinker, i'm just an anti-tosser/racist/fascist/wanker - football has done well to get rid of these dickheads in the last 20 years, let's not repeat the mistakes of the past.

john

[steve_pilko]

corky,

were you at rochdale last year? did you see the 50-100 racist/fascist scum? 90% at least of whom were pissed out of their heads? that's why we shouldn't allow too much alcohol into games.

steve_pilko,

you're missing the fact that we can, and i hope do, turn people away from the ground who are pissed. it's the rules (and i think the law?) that people who are drunk do not get into football grounds. so if they want to get pissed outside of gigg and then turn up pissed, we should refuse entry.


BP, If you can prove that the beer that got these idiots pissed was bought in the ground then you will have some grounds for argument. My guess it was bought in the many pubs that were filled with Bury fans on the route. And you are forgetting about the 90% of fans who bought a drink and caused no trouble what so ever.

And I have never seen anyone turned away from a match because they were drunk in 31 years of going to games. So thinking that this law gives any protection is naive. And lets remember that the trouble in the past was not caused by drinking inside the ground.

If people drink and then misbehave they should be dealt with; as the morons at Rochdale should have been. Don't punish the majority because of the few.

[V Shaped Badge]

This debate has moved from the practicalities of having beer served in Gigg Lane, to drunkenness or otherwise of Shakers fans.

Any bars in Gigg Lane would need to be built so any beer is at least 12 months away. The catering franchise would need to be renegotiated and staff old enough to serve beer would need to be found (the girls in the south stand pie stall were aprox 12 & 15 last season).

I think there are more important issues to be dealt with first.

[blackpudding]

steve_pilko,

BP, If you can prove that the beer that got these idiots pissed was bought in the ground then you will have some grounds for argument. My guess it was bought in the many pubs that were filled with Bury fans on the route. And you are forgetting about the 90% of fans who bought a drink and caused no trouble what so ever.

i don't care if it was caused by beer in the ground or not. no doubt they had been drinking in pubs before the game but it was definitely fueled further by the drink in the ground, of that there is no doubt at all.

I'm not forgetting about the 90% of the fans who caused no trouble but sadly I didn't really see them as I was surrounded and intimidated by a 100 or so fascists.

And I have never seen anyone turned away from a match because they were drunk in 31 years of going to games. So thinking that this law gives any protection is naive. And lets remember that the trouble in the past was not caused by drinking inside the ground.

Isn't that one of the problems? Why aren't they turned away? The stewards and the police have the authority and power to do so.

If people drink and then misbehave they should be dealt with; as the morons at Rochdale should have been. Don't punish the majority because of the few.

Yes, they should be dealt with, that is what i am arguing. Don't let them in or, if they are in, kick them out the second any trouble is spotted.

Sometimes in a democracy laws that hinder the majority are brought in to prevent the minority from doing things they shouldn't. It's unfortunate but sometimes necessary.

All I am saying is if we are to sell alcohol in the ground the club needs to make sure it does so responsibly. Yes, that will mean an increase in policing and stewarding costs, but it is necessary. Perhaps those in power before (it may change now with AD) have looked at the figures and decided it wasn't worth it. I just don't know, but it certainly isn't as simple as "let's sell beer and we'll make money".

[steve_pilko]

Any bars in Gigg Lane would need to be built so any beer is at least 12 months away. The catering franchise would need to be renegotiated and staff old enough to serve beer would need to be found (the girls in the south stand pie stall were aprox 12 & 15 last season).
I think there are more important issues to be dealt with first.

Clubs like Notts County just sell canned beers (at inflated prices) in plastic glasses out of the same place as they sell pies. Therefore no additional infrastructure is needed. Many other clubs (including premiership clubs) do the same.

I take the point about staff age.

It's got to be worth a trial; perhaps only in one stand to begin with where it can be easily monitored/stewarded.

[Cocktail_Shaker]

It all sounds fine until you get down to the nitty-gritty -- where are you going to get the stewards from to control these drunken idiots?

You must have more faith in the Bury stewards than I have. They seem all right shouting at the young kids at the cemmy end but that seems as far as they go.

There was a city fan making a nuisance of himself in the main stand on Saturday, spectators were shouting at him to sit down but no stewards went near him.

Nobody likes a beer more than me but I have to come out on the side of the NO lobby. It is bad enough for women and children listening to the foul-mouthed morons now, I feel alcohol on sale all afternoon would just fuel the situation.

BURY FOREVER!!!!

[corky]

I thought the days when the majority had to suffer because of the idiocy of the minority were long gone. A lot of fans would like to be able to turn up to the ground early, meet up with friends and have a sociable drink. Why should this not be allowed.

Anyway, like I said before if some fans want to get drunk they will whether it is in or out of the ground. Surely its better to have them where they can be stewarded than charging out of the pub at 2-55 and running drunk through the streets around Gigg.

WELL PUT STEVE MAYBE I COULD EVEN GET YOU TO BUY ME A DRINK!

[DJAsh]

The Rochdale game was one of those extreme cases that was always going to attract a few nutters....hot day, Bank Holiday, local derby. They all got tanked up in the pubs until kick off, then arrived at an already nearly full stand, with stewards struggling to deal with them.

Most clubs now serve beer inside their grounds, and 99% of the time this has does not lead to rioting and aggro. I think any "antisocial" behaviour is usually caused by fans who drink in pubs and not in the ground.

Essentially it is up to the individual whether they enjoy a few drinks on match day and do not cause any aggro, or take things too far and risk the consequences. We all know the laws relating to crowd behaviour.

If Bury FC decice they want to serve beer in the ground, like many other clubs we are competing with, they should be allowed to do so.

[s4e]

I am sure a bar could be opened somewhere in the main stand but selling beer is a non-starter on the other three sides of the ground. You're not allowed to drink beer in view of the pitch because Parliament decided some years ago that the heady cocktail of alcahol and grass turned all footy fans into rascist/fascist/violent lunatics. So there's nowhere for people to congregate for a drink without spending money on the ground. Personally I'd rather see any available funds spent on the team.

The point about stewards is a valid one. One thing that really grates with me is how the away team's scrotes are allowed to vault the perimeter fence at the Manny Road End and celebrate goals on the pitch and are then merely returned to their seats by stewards to enjoy the rest of the game. The present crop of stewards would not be up to the job of controlling drunken yobs hell-bent on doing as they please.

[Ulstershaker]

I have had a beer or two at Stoke, Notts County, Reading etc but you cannot drink it within view of the pitch but I have never even thought about kicking it off. OK I accept that there are some who could do with less beer but lets not punish the majority of fans for the (potential) actions of a few eejits. If anyone misbehaves they get banned - simple as that.